Posts by Bungi Bill

- Forget all the various cleaning products and materials that the supermarkets sell. What you can't get clean with ordinary kersosene, plus a drop or two of lemon juice, is not worth trying to clean anyway.

Bill.

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Elder's wives

by Zordino in

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i still go to meetings (sometimes) mostly to acompany my wife and kids.

i have known of jw friends of mine that have gone to elder's for family problems, dispute's with other cult member's or those hemroid's that just won't clear up.

whatever.... i personally never ever told an elder or elder's a stitch of info about my personal life or trouble's etc.

Bungi Bill

soft+gentle,

I tend to agree. The only problem I ever experienced like this concerned two ministerial servants, who seemed to have a mechanical interlock between their ears and their mouths - completely bypassing the brain!

Needless to say, their wives also suffered from a similar difficulty.

However, I can honestly say that I never encountered any such problems orginating from elder's wives.

Bill.

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How many of us have Higher Learning, and still mop floors

by Quarterback in

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someone who works at a college locally, pointed out to me that one of their scholar students was stocking shelves at a dollar store.. with this recession, are you finding that higher learning is wasting time?

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i know that it's necessary to become a dr. or a lawyer, but, with the shortage of work, even teachers are working as secretarys.. what do you think?.

Bungi Bill

I don't have Higher Learning, and pull cables for a living (OK - I do also sweep the workshop floor at the end of each shift!).

With nothing higher than an Advanced Trade qualification, the best I was able to do was get a job managing a power station in a malarial jungle clearing, in some Third World Country - which I gave away after there were two attempts on my life in as many years.

During my final year at high school, some of the brain-boxes in the congregation assured me that "you made more money doing unskilled work, than you made at a skilled job." Fortunately, I woke up to that one while there was still time to at least learn a trade - and then slip in a paper in Advanced Trade Studies as well.

Bill.

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How Purposeful And Meaningful Was The Full-Time Service? "Rivers Of Joy, Euphoric Bliss, Better Sex?"

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

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ramblings of a tired, worn out, book and magazine "pusher".

i am stuck in limbo, reading the watchtower of february 15, 2012, wondering where i went wrong.

how come i am not the happiest person on earth?

Bungi Bill

In this, as in most things JW, I went for a long time believing the problem must have been with me:

- i.e. there had to be a point that I was missing somewhere.

After all, everybody kept claiming how "happy" and "refreshed" the full time service made a person!

I persevered with full time service for as long as I did, solely because I wanted to discover the point that I believed I was missing (not realizing that everybody else was lying!).

Bill.

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When will world realize zero population growth?

by N.drew in

metatron in your opinion do you think the world will see it soon?

how soon?.

Bungi Bill

I have been hearing about electric cars since the days of the second oil crisis (1979 - 1980), when we were told with confidence that "within two years, the electricians will be making the cars." Older people report that similar predictions about electric cars were being made over 60 years ago. For a time, I worked in the testing laboratory for a major battery manufacturing company (Century Yuasa). At that stage, much research was being carried out into alternative types of batteries, and high hopes were being held for the possibilities of the fuel cell. Twenty odd years down the track, though, it is still the lead-acid cell that proves to be the most practical one - albiet in a more refined form (i.e. maintenance free).

Battery powered forklifts excepted , I will believe battery powered cars taking over from those with internal combustion engines only when I see it happen.

(Oh, and I did forget, the buggies used for mobility by some disabled people . I won't be trading my car in for one, though - not just yet!).

Crystal ball gazing about such matters as alternative energy sources has proven most difficult, and caution is advised (look at New Zealand's much-hyped synthetic fuel project of the early 1980s - sold off by fire sale after being painted white and adorned with a trunk!).

Bill.

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When will world realize zero population growth?

by N.drew in

metatron in your opinion do you think the world will see it soon?

how soon?.

Bungi Bill

A few cautionary statements need to be included regarding alternative energy sources, particularly that of the nuclear "cold fusion" process.

Nobody has been able to replicate Pons and Fleischmann's experiment of 1989, leading the scientific community in general to treat the process with deep scepticism - to say the least (with some categorizing it in a class similar to alchemy!). This despite more recent publicity about work being carried out at the University of Bologna, by Andrea Rossi (Nov 3, 2011).

To date, exploitation of the shale oil deposits has been limited to the drawing off of the natuaral gas pockets which form around the shale - and which release after the rock has been shattered by hydraulic action ("fracked"). This is similar to the extraction of the coal seam gas that is carried out in Australia's Central Queensland Coal Fields;

- it is a process which leaves the primary source of the energy behind (In the case of the oil shale, this amounts to some 15 - 40% of what potentially could be recovered).

Many of the popular cliches are also quite true, including the old adage "Necessity is the Mother of Invention." However, care needs to be excercised when presenting something that is just a possibilty:

- "Could" does not necessarily always add up to "Shall". (More's the pity!)

Bill.

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When will world realize zero population growth?

by N.drew in

metatron in your opinion do you think the world will see it soon?

how soon?.

Bungi Bill

New agricultural land is still being brought into production in this part of the world.

I have just returned from a visit to the West Coast of New Zealand's South Island, where land is now being "broken in" that, in my youth, would have been written off as forever useless:

- semi swamp land, with highly acidic soil and covered mainly in noxious weeds and second growth podocarp forest (known by the Maori word "pakihi.")

To turn this into productive dairy farming land requires a huge investment - firstly in earthworks (a technique known as "humping and hollowing"), then massive and repeated application of fertilizers for up to ten years in a row.

Yet, such is the demand for dairy products - both now and anticipated - that investors are prepared to go to these lengths in order to bring new dairy farming land into production.

Bill.

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When will world realize zero population growth?

by N.drew in

metatron in your opinion do you think the world will see it soon?

how soon?.

Bungi Bill

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Atheists..... throwing the baby out with the bath water ?

by snare&racket in

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this saying permeates this forum with higher frequency than most.

despite being an open atheist amongst lots of religious people in my life, i have never been accused of doing this and i have never heard this saying attributed to my choice... appart from here.. i thought it would be best to clarify why i (and i assume others) decided to leave the bible behind after leaving the wt society.. realising the wt society was wrong desroyed my world, for me it meant so much.

i had given so much to it too, it just had to be true!

Bungi Bill

One thing that the JWs did get right is the statement that 'Religion is a Snare and a Racket."

Of course, as somebody has already pointed out, J.F. Rutherord was either unable or unwilling to realize that this applied just as much to his religion as it did to all others.

Bill.